Anish Trivedi, Popular RJ and CMD, Banyan Tree

"Radio Stations can't have different day-parts for different audiences"

e4m by exchange4media Staff
Published: Dec 12, 2002 12:00 AM  | 7 min read
Anish Trivedi, Popular RJ and CMD, Banyan Tree

"Radio Stations can't have different day-parts for different audiences"

In our quest to understand Radio better, we were looking to chat up with someone who understands Radio, both from the programming and the business side. And preferably, first hand! Difficult choice, in the nascent stages of the medium. And then we chanced upon Anish Trivedi. Anish, earlier a top notch banker with Oppenheimer & Co, is now successfully running his five year old radio production company - Banyan Tree and also host a popular Breakfast Show on Mumbai's GO 92.5. He has been involved with radio for over 20 years, beginning with a show at USC's college station. He went on to host one of the first shows to air on India's privatised airwaves in 1993.

In his Cuff Parade office, Amit Agnihotri of exchange4media discussed about the content dynamics of radio business, and if he believes that in the maxim-'radio is a passive medium.' To which Anish vehemently argued-'it is a crap.'

Q. But isn't radio a low cost-low return medium? How lucrative is it? Yes, Radio is a cheap medium whether for advertising or programming. To create half hour TV soap, the costing begins at Rs 3 to 4 lacs but for a radio play the costing could be as low as rupees twenty thousand!

So as a corporate growth strategy, we have grown by adding volume. As I told you earlier, we also do programming for hotels, retail outlets and airlines.

Q. Moving on to media characteristic, it is often cited that radio is a passive medium and it is television that is intrusive. Do you subscribe to this theory? Absolutely not. Radio is very much an active medium. It is television that is passive. Viewers watch television with little interaction. They hardly pickup the phone to call or SMS.

On radio, this interactivity is a way of life; 'Call up for a dedication' or 'Voice your opinion' are popular radio programming formats.

So, when people say that radio is passive medium because you listen in background, I think it is a complete crap.

Q. So, the identity of a station is very important... Yes. People identify and tune in to a station and not the show. They tune in to GO 92.5 every morning, not to hear Anish Trivedi on the Breakfast Show, but to hear GO 92.5.

Q. From Banking to Banyan Tree. For a radio content company, Banyan Tree is a strange name. What is the inspiration? Well, The Banyan Tree in Indian tradition is the centre of local activity and information. Schools and village meetings are still conducted under the shade of its branches, and its spreading roots symbolise an ever-expanding embrace of the community. As a company, we recreate this sense of community amongst Indians worldwide!

Established in 1997, Banyan Tree Communications is the largest independent producer of radio programming in India. We produce almost 1000 hours of original content every month in a range that includes music, entertainment, news, chat and current affairs shows. And we market this content across a number of broadcast media, including terrestrial, cable, satellite and Internet radio.

Q. And how has been the going? Unfortunately, private radio has taken a long time. We expected a far more active environment. In the interim, we have done programming for AIR, Satellite radio channels, Airlines and several other niches. We are glad that finally the airwaves are free!

Q. Ok. To understand the content dynamics in radio space, what is the agreement with music companies? Is it pay-per-song? Yes it is. When we use a music piece, we have to pay two kinds of fees- one to Record Labels for using the their music and two, to the artistes or singers as royalty.

Q. We heard some controversy over these bodies hiking the prices? The record industry feels that they have lost enough monies over the years on Daler Mehndi, Alisha and other and have now decided to make money by hitting at the very industry that will help them recover some!

So while they asked All India Radio Rs. 150 per hour as royalty, they turned around to private stations and asked for Rs. 1,500 and satellite stations like World space Rs 3000. Numbers pulled out of the hat!

They though lets make money this way since we are incapable of generating enough tape and CD sales.

Q. Ok. But how does the glut of free music on private music stations impact the sales of music labels? Does it suppress it? Most certainly, the private radio stations help sell more music on tapes or CDs. Fortunately, some labels like Sony or Virgin realize that there might be a short-term dip but after listening a promo or a song, the guys may get convinced to buy the CD.

But, unfortunately a lot of music labels in India feels that with private stations they can make a quick buck. This is really thoughtless. Hopefully they'll realize that stations are partners in sales and not adversaries.

Q. As per early research numbers from Nielsen-ORG Marg radio research, there seem to be two 'prime times' on radio. One is the morning drive-time peak and the other is the evening peak. Given that you host a popular breakfast show on GO 92.5 FM, in Mumbai, is the audience composition in these time bands significantly different? Well, frankly, we are all grouping in the dark. In India, at this point in time, no one has a clue. But if you were to ask me about the international experience, numbers out of UK and US surely suggest that Breakfast radio is extremely popular.

At the other level, the listenership patterns in these are two day-parts, are very different. The morning day-part listenership is fairly consistent day after day. That's because Mumbaities have a very consistent morning behavior. But evening is another story. The listenership is likely to be in flux. A quick qualification is that I know this is true for Mumbai. I don't really know enough about the other centers.

Q. That being modest, Anish! They tune in for both.... Perhaps. I hope so!

Q. On programming strategy, all five stations in Mumbai are 'hit music stations' playing same songs over and over again. Is this the way things will be! Will programming move on to different genres? Good question and we don't have an answer yet. We are at pilot stage of development of soaps and plays for various stations. Will that be a differentiator? We hope so and so does the station.

But at the end of the day, unless you have a very large number of stations, say 100, there won't be much of differentiation. We aren't getting a Jazz station soon!

So at this point, I believe, it is the way you fill the silence between the music that matter. What a station will put out between a VIVA and a Britney Spears, those 30 seconds, the RJ talk, will matter.

Q. Are stations clearly targeting a well-defined audience? Also, in your view, can a radio station cater to different audiences at different day-parts, by changing the programming? To be honest, most radio stations are not very discriminating. Most meeting that I walk into, across the country, I find station head talking 'my audience is people between 18-45 years.' I think there are at least 3 audiences that are clubbed together!

To answer the other part of your question, can a single station have a morning drive time programming, aimed at executive, and then turn towards housewives in afternoon; I don't think that is possible. Being different things to different people at different day-parts is perhaps not possible on Radio. What happens if my drive time listener tunes in afternoon when he is driving for a meeting? A cookery show will turn him off!

So, a station should know its audience and keep them glued from morning to evening.

Q. Ok. To conclude this chat, tell us, how has been your experience of moving out of banking to full time radio professional? Well, banking was long time ago…. Radio was always a hobby. I went on air in India some nine years ago. I keep joking about the fact that it has been 22 years since I did my first radio show. That makes Ameen Sayani and myself the oldest radio professionals in the country! Thankfully, my hobby became my profession. I got lucky.

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TRAI releases Consultation Paper on reserve price for auction of FM radio channels

The regulatory body has asked for written comments on the consultation paper from the stakeholders by November 6

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Published: Oct 17, 2019 1:19 PM  | 1 min read
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The Telecom Regulatory Authority of India (TRAI) has released a Consultation Paper on "Reserve Price for auction of FM Radio channels".

The Ministry of Information and Broadcasting (MIB) sent a reference dated August 22, seeking recommendations of TRAI on reserve prices for 283 cities (260 new + 23 existing) under FM Phase-Ill Policy.

Accordingly, this Consultation Paper has been prepared to seek the comments and views of the stakeholders on issues related to estimation of the reserve prices for auction of FM Radio channels.

As part of the consultative process, the Consultation Paper has been uploaded on the TRAI website.

The regulatory body has asked for written comments on the consultation paper from the stakeholders by November 6. Counter-comments, if any, may be submitted by November 13, the paper said.

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Radio Mango Nerolac ‘Pulikkali’ celebrates the essence of Onam

Radio Mango in association with Nerolac Healthy Home Paints flags off an Onam folklore-themed roadshow in Kerala

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Published: Sep 13, 2019 6:44 PM  | 1 min read
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Radio Mango in association with Nerolac Healthy Home Paints launched ‘Pulikkali’, an Onam folklore-themed state-wide roadshow that resonates with the ideology of unity among all people, regardless of their caste, colour or religion.

The road show brings to life the most vibrant and eye-catching ritual of Onam, the Pulikkali (Tiger Dance). The campaign also fondly recalls the popular Onam folk song ‘Maveli Naadu Vaneedum Kaalam, Manushar Ellaarum Onnu Poley.’

It is designed around the ancient folklore of the golden reign of King Mahabali when there was no discrimination on the basis of caste or class and there was neither crime, nor corruption.

The dynamic crew of entertainers, dressed as Pulis (Tigers) accompanied by Chenda Melam (traditional percussion) artists will travel across Kerala for 15 days as part of the campaign to emphasise the fact that no matter what, we all are one and whatever the colour, we must unite to make this Onam colourful.

The flag off to the ‘Pulikkali’ roadshow was conducted in Kochi by Malayalam actor Saiju Kurup in the presence of Ravindran Nair, Programme Director, Radio Mango, and Rajesh C., Kerala Regional Sales Manager, Nerolac Healthy Home Paints, at Malayala Manorama’s Panampilly Nagar office.

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PM Modi lauds Fever FM’s #PlasticSeBreakUp initiative

In a tweet, the Prime Minister congratulated Fever FM for its innovative campaign to ensure reduced usage of single-use plastic

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Published: Sep 13, 2019 5:46 PM  | 2 min read
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As part of the Fever Voice of Change CSR initiative, Fever FM launched the ‘#PlasticSeBreakUp’ campaign to make India free from single-use plastic.

Drawing inspiration from Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s message this Independence Day, the initiative urges all shopkeepers to do away with single use plastic bags.

PM Modi too tweeted in support of Fever FM’s Bharat Positive initiative. He said ‘I congratulate Fever FM for their innovative campaign to ensure reduced usage of single use plastic. I urge shopkeepers to take part in this campaign with vigour. Such efforts will add valuable momentum to the Swachh Bharat Mission.’

Talking about the initiative, Harshad Jain, CEO – Radio and Entertainment, HT Media Ltd and Next Mediaworks Ltd., said, “We are extremely grateful to our honourable Prime Minister for his encouragement and appreciation of our latest Bharat Positive campaign, and assure him of our unending support. This encouragement gives us motivation to continue our work with greater zeal to bring about a positive change in the country. We are committed, with our latest campaign against single use plastic, to drive the citizens towards a plastic free India. Bharat Positive is a Fever Voice of Change (FVOC) initiative, the biggest CSR in the history or radio.”

Gautam Gambhir, cricketer, MP and face of Bharat Positive initiative, said, “Credit to team Fever and the listeners of the radio station. PM sir noticing the campaign is no mean feat, it just gives a shot in the arm. Of course when Mr Modi talks, the world listens. There’s substance in his thoughts and him putting the weight behind ‘Plastic Se Breakup’ campaign will only galvanise the whole movement. The fact that his following cuts across age groups is another huge plus. Through PM’s support, the youth, the mid-aged and the elderly, everyone will know about this campaign.”

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RED FM's ‘Pride Ki Side’ campaign highlights LGBTQIA + issues

To celebrate the first anniversary of repealing of Section 377, the initiative will provide a platform to share stories and highlight challenges faced by the community

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Published: Sep 9, 2019 7:03 PM  | 2 min read
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93.5 RED FM has launched a brand-new initiative – ‘Pride Ki Side’ to celebrate the first anniversary of repealing of Section 377. The initiative will provide a platform to share stories and highlight the various challenges faced by LGBTQIA+. The concept of this campaign majorly aims at educating the masses about the pride community.

RED FM has joined hands with Naz Foundation and Breaking Barriers – a project by students of Tagore International School, Vasant Vihar, Delhi, to sensitise the society at the grass root level.

RED FM is targeting the children at a young age so that they become compassionate and kinder towards LGBTQIA+ children.

To support this belief, various workshops are being conducted in schools to provide a safe and respectful learning environment for everyone. Trained and certified counsellors accompanied by RED FM’s team and RJs are conducting the workshops.

Speaking about this campaign, Nisha Narayanan, COO and Director, RED FM and Magic FM, said, “Looking at the status of LGBTQIA+ community in India, it is high-time we start educating the people about them. Everyone should have the right to openly appreciate and practice who they are and love who they want. At RED FM, we believe in supporting this movement through our humble initiative ‘Pride Ki Side’. We want to raise awareness in the public about the challenges faced by them. We hope more people will come forward, share stories and help empower each other. Our vision is to create an inclusive environment and encourage our audience to adopt a progressive and compassionate outlook towards the LGBTQIA+ community.”

Commenting on the association, Anjali Gopalan, Founder and Executive Director, The Naz Foundation Trust said, “I am so happy that RED FM has taken this step to highlight LGBTQIA + issues. The Naz Foundation (India) Trust is proud to be part of this journey.”

To ensure maximum outreach, RED FM has also introduced a daily special morning show on their radio channel with a counsellor. This engaging and interactive format of the show will address queries and problems of the community who face bullying, hatred and discrimination at institutes or workplace.

Besides this, RED FM has also invited a well-known LGBTQIA+ influencer at their studio who will share stories of courage in dealing with cyber trolls, verbal harassment, and how they moved-ahead and dealt with such situations.

The campaign, which began September 4, runs till September 13.

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Dia Mirza supports BIG FM’s green Ganesha initiative

To spread awareness about using eco-friendly Ganesha idols, BIG FM held a two-week-long contest and 15 winners were felicitated with a Tree Ganesha by Mirza

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Published: Aug 30, 2019 7:06 PM  | 3 min read
Diya Mirza

For the 12 th year in a row, BIG FM has brought to light the importance of celebrating festivities in an eco-friendly way through Ramky’s BIG Green Ganesha.

The initiative promotes the use of eco-friendly Ganesha idols and its celebration with minimum environmental damage. RJ Rani, the face of Ramky’s BIG Green Ganesha initiative, hosted the event, which was graced by actress Dia Mirza, Sujiv Nair from Ramky Enviro Engineers Ltd and Ram Kharpuriya, Director - Greenland Farms.

15 lucky contest-winning listeners were felicitated with a Tree Ganesha by Mirza, at the BIG FM office.

To spread awareness about using eco-friendly Ganesh idols, a two-week-long contest was held and it resulted in widespread response from listeners across Mumbai. BIG FM Mumbai associated with Tree Ganesha as they create eco-friendly idols which are made of natural soil and also melts completely after immersion in water bodies as compared to non-biodegradable options that create pollution.

Commenting on the initiative, a BIG FM spokesperson stated, “BIG FM has always tried to bring about a positive change in society. BIG Green Ganesha has been our on-going initiative for the past twelve years which is amplified through on-air and digital channels. We at BIG FM believe in ‘Change starts with you’ and through this campaign tried to raise awareness on the environment pollution created with non-biodegradable idols. The campaign has been very successful till date and we are happy and proud that we as a medium can offer our listeners entertainment with purpose.”

Nair, Chief Human Resources Officer of Ramky Enviro Engineers Ltd, commented, “The Green Ganesha initiative is our contribution to the environment. Being in the space where we closely experience the hazards that affect the environment, we are trying to make Green Ganesha an awareness campaign and save the environment from the use of harmful products. Through this we urge the people to acknowledge an environment-friendly celebration by adopting the use of eco-friendly products.”

Mirza added, “I am very happy to be here. Moreover, I am extremely grateful to BIG FM for this campaign that has been raising awareness over the last 12 years. For the past few years, I have been associating with beach clean ups post the Ganpati Visarjan and it’s very disheartening to see the remains of the idols washed back ashore. Three years ago, Dattadri (Kothur of Tree Ganesha) and I made one of these tree Ganeshas together and it was a beautiful feeling. The happiness you feel while doing something for the better good just elates you to a whole new level. I urge more people to opt for eco friendlier methods, for not just their Ganpati celebrations, but in their day-to-day activities as well.”

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Radio Adex: Ad volume sees 8% decrease in indexed growth in Q2 2019

Paytm.com continues to be the top brand to advertise in the services sector in the first half of both 2018 and 2019

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Published: Aug 21, 2019 8:31 AM  | 2 min read
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The recent Radio Adex report for ad volumes in the medium for the first and second quarter of 2019 shows 8 per cent decrease in indexed growth.

In the first quarter (Jan-March), the service sector had 31 per cent share which came down to 26 per cent in the second quarter (April-June). The retail sector saw increased share in the second quarter. From 8 per cent in the first quarter, the ad volumes from the retail sector increased to 11 per cent. This was the time when IPL, General Elections and World Cup were ruling the roost.

Interestingly, Banking/Finance/Investment sector which was one of the top advertising categories in the first quarter with 12 per cent share, doesn’t find a place in the top five super categories in the second quarter. Education makes an entry in the top five list for Q2 with 10 per cent share. Auto jumped from 8 per cent to 10 per cent, while food beverages declined from 10 per cent to 9 per cent.

If we consider the ad volume in Radio for the first half of 2019 vs the first half of 2018, the indexed growth saw a decline by 9 per cent. Services continue to take the maximum share. In 2018, it was 30 per cent share while in 2019, it is 29 per cent share. Retail, Food & Beverages, Banking, Finance and Investment saw similar shares this year as was in 2018. Auto moved from 8 per cent in 2018 to 9 per cent this year.

Paytm.com continues to be the top brand to advertise in the services sector in the first half of both 2018 and 2019. Google Pay takes the next spot this year as compared to Amazon.in in 2018. Google, Cars24, Yahoo Cricket were the other brands which were a part of the top 5 brands in the first half of 2018. This year, Cars24 remained constant while there has been an addition of Hotstar and Phonepe in the list.

In the retail sector, except for Home Centre (Koz), all the brands that advertised on Radio in the first half of 2018 are missing from the top 5 brands list of 2019. While last year there were Great Eastern Trading, Central (Pantaloons), Max Retail, and South India Shopping Mall, in 2019, they are replaced by Alishan, Reliance Trends, The Chennai Silks and Lifestyle. In the Food and Beverages category, the Pan Masala brands continue to make a mark.

The cars category has jumped from 5 per cent to 7 per cent shares on radio, when compared to the first half of 2018 vs the first half of 2019. Properties/Real Estates have the maximum share of 8 per cent in 2019 compared to 9 per cent in 2018.

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FM Tadka goes for makeover with ‘Apni Suno’ campaign

Apart from the new positioning statement, FM Tadka also sports a new logo indicating dialogue within for a positive change

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Published: Aug 19, 2019 10:53 AM  | 3 min read
FMTadka

Three months ago, management at the Patrika group decided to go for a makeover of FM Tadka. And just two weeks back, the revamp exercise reached a climax at film studios in Jaipur with RJs all across the country practicing steps for the new jingle video having both an aspirational and inspirational feel to it.

The radio network, spanning six states and 18 cities, started its teaser campaign on August 1 with a mascot named Mr. Mannki who ignited people's minds on the new message hidden in its pose which became quite a hit amongst listeners.

The campaign garnered praise from celebrities across the spectrum. Singers Sukhwinder Singh, Hariharan, Tochi Raina, Aastha Gill, and Hindi film industry stars like Tusshar Kapoor, Mallika Shehrawat, Urvashi Rautela, Sonali Kulkarni, director Nitish Tiwari, Super 30 founder Anand Kumar, comedians Shekhar Suman, Sunil Pal, Raju Shrivastav and sports stars appreciated the concept when it was shared with them during their visits to FM Tadka. The campaign, Apni Suno, talks about making a transformation in life.

“As a country, we have always followed Gandhi ji’s three monkeys, but now the fourth monkey Mr Mannki came with a message- to bring a positive change in your life and to the destiny of the country- Apni Suno. This network philosophy was aptly revealed on Independence Day,” the network said in a statement.

“From students as environment crusaders, young innovators to reality stars from smaller cities- there are many examples of people listening to themselves and carving a new life for themselves. It is this clarion call that FM Tadka is bringing to its listeners and propagating through roadshows, cinema, mall tie ups and artists across the country,” the statement read.

 Gaurav S Karrir, the National Programming Head, further reveals, “The prospect of a product change around was quite exciting. We took innovative ways like making Mr Mannki our mascot, mask inserts in newspapers, celeb led Apni Suno life changing stories and using Patrika power in digital, outdoor, print and tv to make people notice the new message of Apni Suno”.

 Saurabh Bhandari, National Head Marketing, Patrika Group, who has seen the radio product evolve over the years, applauded team Tadka and shared his vision, saying, “We at Patrika Group always believe to bring change in people’s life. Our endeavour FM Tadka's ‘apni suno’ positioning is yet another step in same direction, there has been a deep study and long research behind this, we are confident listeners and our trade partners will continue their love n support to FM Tadka.”

 Apart from a new positioning statement, FM Tadka also sports a new logo indicating dialogue within for a positive change. Shades of blue pointing at freedom of expression. The core TG now is 16-30 with music starting from 2008 and the playlist focused on melody.  FM Tadka's flagship Jaipur station now has a new team of RJs making the entire station live with focus on social impact plus technology and sports segments.

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