Uncovered: Discovery’s Deepak Shourie

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Published: Oct 7, 2005 9:27 AM  | 7 min read
Uncovered: Discovery’s Deepak Shourie

You could think the phrase “been there, done that” was written for him. Consider: he launched Tang in India; headed the marketing at Cadbury’s; toyed with a magazine in partnership with Zee’s Subhash Chandra; spearheaded Music Today; launched the vernacular editions of India Today; created a market for premium diaries; and conceptualised Outlook.

That wasn’t enough for him; the arc lights beckoned. Not quite arc lights, the idiot box beckoned.

And then again, not quite the idiot box. Television beckoned in the form of Discovery Channel. He inherited a channel, which was branded “good”. But who wants to watch a “good” channel in India?

Deepak Shourie, Managing Director, Discovery Communications India, had his task cut out — first, he had to get the channel’s positioning right.

Next, Shourie had to get the viewers on board, and finally, get the advertisers to write money on the channel.v Shourie’s done that with finesse and aplomb. He’s also played a pivotal role in the launch of Discovery Travel and Living. His next task is to get Animal Planet to connect to India.

"The biggest challenge is to get Discovery out of the niche arena. We plan to position Discovery in the mainstream market because Discovery is a mainstream channel." This is what you said a few years ago.

And this is what we've achieved. In 2004 — the whole of 2004 — and I'm talking week 1 to week 52, we said that we need to compete in the arena of English movies and news. We cannot compete with soaps, but the bigger arena was English movies and news. So, in terms of advertisers interest, as we competed with English movies and news, we were very close to HBO and Star Movies. And we were three times the leading English news channel for all audiences; 52 weeks, from 6 a.m. in the morning to 12 midnight.

So basically, you’ve re-defined mainstream…

HBO is a mainstream channel, STAR Movies is a mainstream channel, NDTV 24/7 is a mainstream channel. People don't realise that Discovery is in that space. We wanted to ensure that that was the space we were recognised in.

So you're happy with the numbers that all your three channels are delivering?

I think that the market is going to evolve. When television came into India 10 years ago, it brought entertainment into the home. And what was the evolutionary process in the market? It's always entertainment; and then, other things like knowledge and information. And as India is developing into a very mature television market, we have a young, aspiring, educated audience. They will look for alternatives; I don't use the word niche; I use the work alternate television. There is pure entertainment play; there is pure news play; we are alternative.

Again, back to something you said; you said that you would not market programmes that were given to you, but market programmes that the market wants. Are you any closer to knowing what the market wants? I mean, you watch all kinds of channels and you still see slap-dash kinds of programming (not just in your bouquet), but in general when most of the content comes from abroad…

We consciously try and say 'how do we go about the process? This is our audience, what would be their interest areas?' Like adults 25-35 plus — women, or families; and given the character of Discovery, which is defined by the genres that it deals with; it's bringing the real world to the whole world. So given that stage, we pick programmes from around the world that will suit them. If I was to show you the shows that we're going to run for '10 years of Discovery, look at the programmes: ‘Tokyo Sky City’, ‘Raising the Mammoth’. But they have to be within the character of Discovery and from all that we have learnt from our consumers about what they want. We asked our viewers and 35,000 people responded. They're extremely satisfied with what they're seeing.

So you've got a successful programme guide going; do you see that in some form translating into new viewers, or making old ones sticky…?

Two things have happened. One is, the issue has become what to watch and when. Because Discovery is completely episodal, and by the sheer variety of content we have, you cannot expect people to remember beyond their immediate areas of interest.

So, the objective is to create enough material for the people to remember, and the programme guide is a great idea. We marketed it on the channel itself. We said that people who are watching Discovery should become loyalists, and in 3-4 days time, we had 70,000 responses. And we're doing 70,000 around the country.

Now, can we see this programme guide success being spun off into something bigger; I'm sure there is a temptation, especially for someone like you who's done a lot in print. There must be a temptation, for example, to turn this programme guide into a magazine; sell ad space; it will subsidise your costs, it's an expensive product. So is there a temptation?

I don't think it can be a temptation; it must fulfil a purpose. And our first primary purpose is television; the deeper purpose is getting closer to your consumer. Well, if you look at the size, it's the biggest periodical going out from a TV channel. In four days time, we had a circulation of 70,000. I feel that this is commendable.

Do you have a magazine in mind? You must have a budget that you have to work within? I'm evaluating what the concept is.

Other than the booklet, have you been able to create appointment viewing on the channel?

We run these ads called 'Tonight on Discovery'. Each time we run that ad, our slot average goes up, depending on the programme, between 30 and 70-80 per cent. It depends on what people's interests are.

The programme guide is one of your unusual innovations; is there anything else that we can expect to see?

You've already seen 'time-band', on Discovery; we did it with things like Late Night Discovery; the branding of a time-band. The reason for this was the moment you say 'time', people don't remember time as much as a name. So if you brand it, and say 'Late Night Discovery', it also cues a person's mind in terms of what to expect from the channel.

So we've done that, we've done the programme guide, we've done appointment viewing advertising; I guess we'll continue. Next year, the emphasis will be on local production.

We also see 'Travel and Living' open up a huge world of possibilities for local programming…

Travel and Living, as you might know, has been launched first in India. Discovery took the initiative of going into the lifestyle genre last year and in the lifestyle genre, we discovered that of all the lifestyle channels, some were re-branded, some were relaunched.

And India was the first country we launched Travel and Living in; and why was that? Because we saw the potential in India. The company decided that India was the right place to launch in. I took them to the malls,

I showed them all the new cars that were launched, I showed them how India was changing, and how people's lifestyles were changing. And it's been a great launch, and very successful with the audience we wanted to reach which is a very upscale audience. We deliver un-cluttered advertising to them.

So coming back to Travel and Living; where were your expectations and where you are today vis-a-vis your expectations; and I'm not talking about numbers here...

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Lionhearts at Cannes

The Indian lion hunters have had their best year so far. Cannes Lions 2006 is an even bigger whirligig of Advertising and the business of marketing advertising. And much more. Anurag Batra, Publisher and Editor-in-Chief – exchange4media Group, who’s in the thick of it all with his ear to the ground, writes from the French Riviera

e4m by exchange4media Staff
Published: Jun 26, 2006 5:40 PM  | 4 min read
Lionhearts at Cannes

The Indian Bull Run continues at Cannes as wego into print. Film is one category that might add further to India’s already respectable tally. There were a healthy number of entries too,from India this year – 738 against the 602 we sent in last year.

Sometimes, the list of winners doesn’t do justice to those that came so close to a Lion. So, for the record, and also in appreciation of all the blood, sweat and tears that went into each and every glorious short listed Indian entry at Cannes Lions 2006, Impact is printing the list of the short listed entries.


THE INDIAN SCORECARD:
At the time of going into print, JWT has two Gold Lions for the count, with fi ve entries in Press (Levi’s) bagging Gold, and one Promo Lion for Pepsi’s urkure. O&M and Rediffusion DYR won one Outdoor Gold each, for clients Discovery and MidLand Bookstore respectively. Also in the Outdoor category, Leo Burnett won Bronze for Dinodia Photo Library, and so did Everest for clients Cancer Patients Aid Association.

In Press, O&M’s work for Indian Association for Promotion of Adoption and Child Welfare won Silver, with its two entries. Leo Burnett bagged the Bronze Lion for its campaign for Maneland Jungle Lodge. In the Lions Direct competition, ediffusion DYR raked in Silver, for work on MidLand Bookstore.

Among the Media Lions were Leo Burnett and Madison. Leo Burnett won Silver for Prerana, while Madison Communications bagged two Bronzes – one for P&G Home Products and the other for Cadbury.

Our favorites like the Ariel ‘Corners’ campaign didn’t feature even in the shortlist, leaving us bewildered. But that’s the beauty of Cannes. You can’t really track who has done what and entered what in each sub category. Having said that, except for the Promo Lions winner from JWT, most other pieces are familiar works recognized at several awards.

At last count, we won four Golds, three Silvers and fi ve Bronzes. (See list of winners) And the Film Lions holds promise. We’re getting there.


UNIVERSITY OF CONVERSATIONS
I listened to Maurice Saatchi on Thursday, spellbound by his “One Word Equity for Brands” concept. Saatchi’s ruthlessly imple philosophy boiled down to the word being the word that a company wants associated with its brand. Google can be described through the One Word Equity by the word Search. Saatchi‘s call inspired and impressed me a lot. I also try and follow what I learn and implement it in my daily work. What is the point of knowledge if one does not apply it? We are not into it for intellectual and visual masturbation.

When I sat to write about Cannes for Impact, I said to myself I should be able to describe Cannes Advertising Festival in a single word. The two words that competed in my mind for that single word were: ‘University’ and ‘Conversations’. I am not sure the festival organizers necessarily think the same.

Before I elaborate on the choice of my words, let me start by telling you a story about Roger Hatchuel. Hatchuel was the founder of the Cannes Advertising festival which is regarded by most as the “Olympics of Advertising”. Now that could be another expression for Cannes. Romain Hatchuel, Roger’s son, who was the festival’s chief executive till 2002, joined EURO RSCG in a senior position after disagreements with his dad over shifting the festival’s London headquarters to Paris, and this led to Emap communications taking over the festival two years ago. While Emap has tried to broaden and professionalize the appeal by initiatives like the Media Person of the Year, giving a separate award and jury for outdoor, it would be fair to say that Hatchuel has created and left behind a masterpiece and laudable celebration of advertising creativity. What continues aspart of his legacy is the weeklong stint at Roger Hatchuel Academy by international students studying advertising and communications.

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Kids have emerged into an assertive consumer group, says KidSense study

So you’re buying a car? Or an exotic summer holiday package for the entire family? A washing machine, perhaps, to replace the one that’s, well, outlived its lifespan, or an air conditioner? Or Insurance, maybe? You’ve compared prices, specifications, colour, plan, features, whatever, right? And made a decision about what to purchase? Good. But wait. Don’t bring out that cash or credit card yet, because if your toonager or tweenager, or even your tot of a toothager prefers something else, chances are you will change your mind, give up your own selection, and end up buying what your kid prefers.

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Published: Jun 12, 2006 12:06 PM  | 3 min read
Kids have emerged into an assertive consumer group, says KidSense study

So you’re buying a car? Or an exotic summer holiday package for the entire family? A washing machine, perhaps, to replace the one that’s, well, outlived its lifespan, or an air conditioner? Or Insurance, maybe? You’ve compared prices, specifications, colour, plan, features, whatever, right? And made a decision about what to purchase? Good. But wait. Don’t bring out that cash or credit card yet, because if your toonager or tweenager, or even your tot of a toothager prefers something else, chances are you will change your mind, give up your own selection, and end up buying what your kid prefers.

So – and much more – say the findings of a study conducted by Disney, the leading media brand, and GroupM, the world’s leading full service media investment management company.

KidSense, which Rajat Jain, MD, The Walt Disney Company (India) describes as “ a strategic initiative to bring insights into the world of kids,” is a comprehensive single source study on Kids in India that combines both quantitative and qualitative research.

And why did Disney and Group M decide to venture upon this joint endeavor to explore the exciting world of kids in India?

Because kids have been largely ignored by the media and marketing fraternity due to their insignificance and their relatively lower spending power. Hence they have for long been classified into a holistic segment of ‘4-14 year olds’ which was rarely researched into. This led to the failure to realize the potential of this knowledge to create better and relatable products for Indian kids.

Says Jain, “The study was jointly launched to explore the world of kids and share insights with the media and marketing fraternity. Kids have increasingly emerged as savvy, sensitive and an extremely important consumer segment today. As global leaders in this genre, it is our responsibility to understand kids and provide a knowledge-house for all the stakeholders.” Jain hopes that the findings of this study would act as “a credible reference-point for the industry, our business partners and help grow the business in this industry as a whole.”

Ashutosh Srivastava, CEO, GroupM, South Asia, says, “The association of GroupM with Disney is all about unlocking value in this growing market segment of young consumers. An important learning for all is that kids like to be spoken to in their own environment – their schools, their play areas, their homes and their shows. Disney’s KidSense shows new realities of influence from this genre on purchase decisions in categories ranging from confectionery to cars and insurance companies.” In other words, if marketers want to sell more, they need to influence the parents through the kids. And how do they do that? Simple. As Srivastava puts it, “talk the kids language to enter their homes.” And if you want to connect with kids in the 4-14 age group, you’ll have to speak not one, but three languages. That’s right, but more on that in a bit.

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New Age Media: Wanna read my newspaper? Sorry – it’s personal!

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Published: Jun 3, 2006 1:25 PM  | 1 min read
New Age Media: Wanna read my newspaper? Sorry – it’s personal!

The first thing that begins our morning everyday, along with the mandatory cuppa is the newspaper. People from all walks of life- vegetable vendors, businessmen, savvy housewives and inclined-towards-art souls read it. While there are some news pieces which are relevant to all, quite a bit of the content as well as the advertisements fail to evoke the desired interest in some readers.

We have come a long way from having print editions to the online avatars. A logical step ahead would be a possibility that would accommodate customized content and advertisements based on the reader's preferences.

This will bring about a shift from a pushed content to a pulled content. The possibilities are vast. There can be translated versions for people who want news only in a particular language. There can be kids who will be happy with a personalized edition that features stuff on their favourite games. The stock market buff will be delighted to go through his unique personalized newspaper that has anamysts' say on the ongoing boom or bearish trends as the case may be.

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Baby I’m A-want You!

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Published: Jun 3, 2006 1:23 PM  | 3 min read
Baby I’m A-want You!

That’s what each women’s magazine seems to be telling every potential reader. Women's magazines arguably have a certain homogeneity to them. The glossy look, the thin, preposterously dressed women, the endless perfume and make-up ads. Yet we love the escapism they offer. The Indian market place has exploded with brands and magazine in the last 10 years, and now, there’s another – Marie Claire’s India edition, launched on the 2nd of June. Shalini Amarnani casts an analytical look at the world of Indian Women's magazines – which are definitely bracing for renewed battle with one more aggressor – and tries to see where Marie Claire is likely to find its place.

The battle for the Indian Woman's mind-space began some 10 years ago. Till then the English magazine-consuming population had a limited choice reading women Eve's Weekly, Femina and Women's Era.

The paper quality was poor, as was the photographic element. The content was mainly about how to be a blushing bride, handle your in-laws and dish out the most scrumptious food. Woman' Era is still stuck in that era.

Foreign magazines like Vogue, Harper Bazaar, Cosmopolitan, Elle, Marie Claire and the like would come to you only if you had friends coming from abroad, or you could catch a year-old issue at the raddiwala.

Enter stage left : Marie Claire

After a decade we are seeing the entry of another big international name. The entry of Marie Claire in the Indian market from the solid Outlook Group has rattled a few quarters. The advertising pie will be redistributed, as will the readership. Claims Suresh Selveraj, the magazine’s Associate Publisher, “Marie Claire's entry in India will change the journalist standards amongst the women's magazine in India.”

Marie Claire is known worldwide as a fashion magazine for the thinking woman. So, besides a lot of elegant fashion and beauty they have strong features content. Says Editor Shefalee Vasudev, “We have first-person articles, special investigative reports, relationships, photo stories, and hope to develop a lot of bold and beautiful reports that tell people about India and not the rich urban India. We believe in being real. So we will talk about issues in India as they are. Our fashion content is slick and doable – it doesn't come from a dream factory but it shows women possibilities in fashion. And leaves them with many good ideas.”

The older players are shuffling along The change in Women's magazines in India came with the entry of Cosmopolitan and Elle in the Indian marketplace. It shook the players out of their slumber and got them rethinking their strategy. In this story, one has attempted to analyze the major players in this arena, and their strengths and weaknesses.

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Research shows how B2B sites can achieve success

Anew research study by the International Federation of the Periodical Press (FIPP) has unveiled key methods used by business-tobusiness (b2b) magazine publishers to create some of the world's most successful and profitable b2b websites.

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Published: May 21, 2006 7:42 PM  | 1 min read
Research shows how B2B sites can achieve success

Anew research study by the International Federation of the Periodical Press (FIPP) has unveiled key methods used by business-tobusiness (b2b) magazine publishers to create some of the world's most successful and profitable b2b websites. The Routes to Success for Business-to-Business Publishers' Websites study has found that around 66 per cent of websites surveyed are in profit, compared with only about 25 per cent in the same survey four years earlier. The proportion of sites making a loss has fallen from about 50 percent to less than 20 per cent. The objectives of the survey were: to examine good practice online among publishers of printed b2b magazines worldwide; to learn how success has been achieved; and to better understand how publishers are using the internet in conjunction with their magazines.

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Will Bangalore move to the Mid-day beat?

Word on the streets of Bangalore is that The Hindustan Times is looking to enter the market. Admittedly, Bangalore is next on the Deccan Chronicle's agenda too. Rumors on the next stage of DNA's ambitions featuring Bangalore are doing the rounds too. But all these are rumours. And then, there's fact. About a publication. t h a t ' s mastered the art and business of the English tabloid in India. Midday, the paper whose t a g l i n e professes it's for - and profiles -- Mumbai on the Move, is on the move itself. Midday, it's been confirmed, is Bangalorebound.

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Published: May 21, 2006 7:39 PM  | 2 min read
Will Bangalore move to the Mid-day beat?

Word on the streets of Bangalore is that The Hindustan Times is looking to enter the market. Admittedly, Bangalore is next on the Deccan Chronicle's agenda too. Rumors on the next stage of DNA's ambitions featuring Bangalore are doing the rounds too.

But all these are rumours. And then, there's fact. About a publication. that's mastered the art and business of the English tabloid in India. Midday, the paper whose t a g l i n e professes it's for – and profiles -- Mumbai on the Move, is on the move itself. Midday, it's been confirmed, is Bangalorebound.

Four weeks from now, a team of 50-odd journalists and other staffers that comprise the team of the forthcoming Bangalore Mid-day, will heave a collective sigh of relief. Many of them were hired as long as three, even four months ago, but were sort of kept on hold, doing nothing much.

A few got so bored, they left. But now, it is final. Under the stewardship of Editor Anil Thakraney and Publisher Sundar Kondur, Tariq Ansari is now ready to unleash the Bangalore edition of Mid-day, with the same tagline: Bangalore on the move. And so, Bangalore will soon witness intense action in the print daily space in English, in the months to come. Vijay Times, the last entrant into Bangalore's English daily market, from the. publishers of the leading Kannada daily (ABC) Vijaya Karnataka, has grown appreciably since its early hiccups. Market leader The Times of India is still miles ahead, and Deccan Herald from The Printers (Mysore) is ahead too, but by a much smaller margin

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It’s EMVIES time again

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Published: May 13, 2006 5:21 PM  | 4 min read
It’s EMVIES time again

The time to celebrate media initiatives are here again. The Bombay Ad Club instituted Media awards, EMVIES are just around the corner. In keeping with its annual schedule, this year the awards are planned on June 22, 2006. Action around the EMVIES has commenced with the Bombay Ad Club inviting entries for the event. In the past four years, EMVIES has seen the trend of increasing the number of entries that it has been getting last year seeing a peak of over 350 entries. EMVIES Chairperson Apurva Purohit states that this is what The Ad Club is expecting this year as well. To take a closer look before commencing action around the awards, the Ad Club had organised a pre-judging cocktail, inviting professionals from the industry to given their opinions on the awards and the judging process. “We received a very positive feedback from these industry leaders and they commended the Ad Club to be able to out together such an event for the media,” informed Ad Club's Bipin Pandit.

The EMVIES has seen in participation year-on-year, the number of entries in the first year was 78, which steadily notched up to 125 plus, 200 plus to the 350 plus mark last year. Purohit puts in a word of caution here. Purohit said, “Getting the mark of 400 was a sense of peak as every agency had participated last year with a decent number of entries.We are expecting to secure the margin this year as well.” She believes that between the addition of new categories and streamlining of some of the existing categories, the said target can be achieved. Another noteworthy factor that was seen in 2003 were the different industry bodies that participated in the EMVIES. Moving beyond from just the media agencies, research agencies, marketers, channels and interestingly creative agencies had competed to take home an EMVIE. “And we had seen some very good work coming from all of these organisations,” emphasised Purohit.

She further added, “EMVIES really are pan industry award for media innovations and I expect the same kind of participation this year as well.” Another area of expectations comes from the quality of entries. Purohit said, “Without doubt, every year we have seen improvement in the kind of entries that have come and this year wouldn't be any different either. Especially in categories like new media, out-of-home, never before used media, we have seen some genuine innovations.” Hopefully TV and Print will also show the next level of media innovations this year. Nonetheless, all said and done, the expectations from the industry to feature some ground breaking work is also high. EMVIES forms are sent across to agencies and can also be downloaded from exchange4media.com. The last date isMay23, 2006. The awards has roped in Times Now as the title sponsor. The category sponsors are indiatimes.com for the digital category and Radio Mirchi for the radio category. TAM continues with the award sponsorship of the 'Best TV Research' category. exchange4media.com is the official media partner.

Explaining more on the reasons why TimesNowpartnered with the event, Partho Dasgupta, Vice President and Business Head of the channel elaborated, “Times Now supports advertising and media fraternity.We even have a weekly show called the Brand Equity dedicated to this audience. We were associated with the Ad Review 2006, International Advertising Association, the Brand Equity Quiz and with Abbys. EMVIES takes us a step further in our celebration of good work by media agencies.” While Dasgupta “wishes to recognise the excellence in media industry through EMVIES”, Prashant Panday, Dy CEO, Radio Mirchi opines that as a media event, EMVIES has come a long way. “Given the kind of industry initiatives we have been associating with, EMVIES surely fits our scheme of affairs perfectly.” The countdown has begun. Can MindShare retain its Champion status?Will Lodestar claim back 'Agency Of The Year' Award? Will agencies like Maxus and Initiative, Starcom take home the Grand EMVIES?

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