Fortune, Black Pencil, David… The rule of third agency brands begins?
A second agency in the network has become commonplace in Indian advertising. The reasons ranged from cornering talent to getting a different philosophy in the system to handling conflicting businesses. And for these same reasons, some agencies have now even added third creative brands – JWT has Fortune, Leo Burnett has Black Pencil, and Ogilvy has now re-launched David. However, the question is whether there is place for more from the same in the advertising ecosystem.

JWT India floated Contract Advertising as a second agency. Contract grew enough to compete with elder sibling on occasions. JWT subsequently even launched a third creative brand in its family – Fortune.
Leo Burnett India got a second brand Orchard, and just as Orchard began making its own place in the advertising world, Leo Burnett had a third brand in Black Pencil.
And now, arguably the biggest player in the industry, Ogilvy India, too has a third brand in its system. Ogilvy has announced the re-launch of David. The plans for the entity are still fluid and Ogilvy officials have said that a head for the third brand would be announced soon but for now, Ogilvy India too has two more brands – Meridien and David.
As is known, a couple of year’s back, on grounds that David was not “profitable enough”, the agency was merged with Bates Enterprise. Eventually, the brand name David was dropped. Now that Ogilvy India is of the opinion that there is place for a third agency, it chose to revive the brand ‘David’.
Second agencies are commonplace in the Indian advertising industry today. Lowe has Pickle; McCann Erickson has TAG; Rediffusion Y&R has Everest Brand Solutions; Mudra has Mudra Advertising and Mudra DDB; Publicis has Publicis Ambience and Publicis India and the list goes on. However, various second agencies are still fighting to be reckoned. In a situation like this, is their place for a third agency?
A quick conversation with advertising agency heads, and it is clear that the rules don’t change for the third agency brand. The third brand too has its own management, its own P&L, it’s a business in its own right, which for the people in the agency is “third to none”. exchange4media spoke to the top advertising honchos to get a view on whether the third agency brands can survive and contribute to the umbrella brand in the longer run.
Different Philosophy, Not Just Conflict Biz
Colvyn Harris, CEO, JWT India, explained, “There is a reason every time an agency decides to launch a new brand, and that has very little to do with conflict businesses. True that that is an important reason but sometimes agencies look at bringing a different philosophy. For instance, a mainstream agency versus an agency that focuses more on the creative product.”
He also said that sometimes an agency is acquired, and in order to retain the ethos and DNA of that agency, it is run as an independent entity. An example of this can be seen in Publicis’ acquisition of Capital Advertising.
Arvind Sharma, Chairman and CEO, Leo Burnett India, noted, “On the outset one may think that a new brand is to accommodate a conflicting business but one can’t sustain opening a new agency on the basis of one business. At least in our case, the set up has reaped rewards and done well for us.”
Charles Cadell, CEO, Lowe Lintas, too seconded Harris’ viewpoint on a second agency. He said, “The nature of the second or the third agency depends upon the strategy of the master agency. There are agencies from the same parent but can be based on a different philosophy or it could be a different kind of agency like focusing on non-traditional medium. It all depends on the way the master agency perceives the second or third agency to be. Between Lowe and Pickle, there is a good deal of separation and both the offices have different set of people.”
However, Josy Paul, Chairman and National Creative Officer, BBDO India, pays more weightage to conflict business as a reason to launch a second brand. Paul believes that “successful agencies need new garages to park new business wins- especially if they are competing.”
A Third Brand is first, a People Opportunity
Bringing a very different point of view to the discussion, Ogilvy India’s Piyush Pandey stated that a new brand is first and foremost about creating opportunities for good talent. He said, “At one level, it is true that the advertisers’ needs are increasing, and there are brands who would want a mindset and culture that is different from your first agency brand. There it makes sense to be able to develop a differentiated offering. But even before that discussion takes place, a new brand is first about people.”
Paul added here, “The good thing about a new brand is that it creates opportunities for the mother agency to create new cultures and offer new exciting challenges for its people. There is an entrepreneurial spirit about it. It is an interesting model to have satellite agencies if it is based on encouraging diversity.” But when the likes of JWT and Rediffusion Y&R are taking the routes of internal promotion to fill in the gaps left by senior level exits, how do agencies propose to furnish new brands with right talent? Sharma replied, “Attracting talent is also not an issue for us. While small maybe beautiful but the truth is that many small agencies are not able to attract talent. We have a pool of talented people who do justice to our other agencies. Going forward, as India would have more players in any sector with high quality competition, I believe that this trend would be more apparent.”
Pandey said, “I would say that within Ogilvy itself, there is so much talent that can still self-actualise itself. I don’t see a problem there.”
Harris on the other hand said, “The ECDs at JWT handle businesses that are probably comparable to the overall size of some agencies. There would always be shortage for great talent but good agencies develop talent in their system to eventually take on greater challenges.”
The industry is of the opinion that if second agencies can enter the league of the first brands, then why can a third agency brand not thrive. But as Paul puts it, “it is a business decision at the end of the day”. For the longer run, those brands that have a sound business plan at the base of the structure would survive and contribute to the growth of the mother agency or the master agency or the first brand.
(Inputs by Tuhina Anand)
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E4M Our strategy is to target younger audiences through Sports: Rajiv Dubey, Dabur
The Head of Media at Dabur India spoke exclusively to exchange4media on the World Cup, associating with Indian Idol, the company’s digital spending and much more
With quirky campaigns, memes and moment marketing, timed with the ongoing World Cup and particularly the India-Pakistan matches, Dabur India has got considerable consumer attention for its popular brands – Red Paste, Cool King Hair Oil, Chyawanprash, Dabur Vita and the recently launched Bae Fresh Gel toothpaste.
The 140-year-old company is going big on key sporting events, World Television Premiere (WTP) movies and reality shows. It is now gearing up to become the title sponsor of popular talent show ‘Indian Idol’ on Sony TV for the first time, shared Rajiv Dubey, who leads the media strategy at Dabur.
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Swapan Seth's new book 'COOL' is out
The book is a reflection of the author's 'eclectic taste across categories'
Advertising professional and art collector Swapan Seth has announced the launch of his new book COOL. The book is described as "a ready reckoner to the hip and the happening, of the known and the very unknown."
The book is a reflection of the author's "eclectic taste across categories: from boltholes to exotic hideaways."
COOL has been published by Simon & Schuster India and is available on Amazon.
Seth is an ad veteran with a long and illustrious career in the industry. He became the youngest-ever Creative Director at Clarion at age 24. He was VP at 26 at Trikaya Grey. Two years later, he started his agency Equus.
He writes for publications such as The Economic Times, Hindustan Times and India Today. This is his second book and he has previously published THIS IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
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Disney Star signs 9 sponsors for Asia Cup PAK
Charged by Thums Up, Nerolac Paint+, Amazon Pay, Jindal Panther, My11Circle, MRF, Samsung Galaxy Z Flip5, Wild Stone and Thums Up come on board
e4m Staff Disney Star has signed nine broadcast and digital streaming sponsors for the upcoming Asia Cup.
Charged by Thums Up, Nerolac Paint+, Amazon Pay, Jindal Panther, My11Circle, MRF, Samsung Galaxy Z Flip5, Wild Stone and Thums Up have come on board for the upcoming tournament.
As reported earlier by exchange4media, Disney Star has sought Rs 26 crore for the co-presenting sponsorship on TV and Rs 30 crore for Disney+ Hotstar.
According to industry sources, the associate sponsorship on Star Sports has been priced at Rs 19.66 crore, whereas for the ‘powered by’ sponsorship on Disney+ Hotstar, the broadcaster is seeking Rs 18 crore.
As per the information available with exchange4media, Disney+ Hotstar has three sponsorship tiers-- co-presenting (Rs 30 crore), powered by (Rs 18 crore) and associate sponsorship (Rs 12 crore). The broadcaster is offering an estimated reach of 120-140 million for co-presenting sponsors, 90-100 million for powered by and 60-70 million for associate sponsorship.
A spot buy for 10 seconds has been priced at Rs 25 lakh for the India vs Pakistan matches, while for the non-India matches, the ad rate for 10 second is Rs 2.3 lakh. The India matches plus the final for ODIs has been priced at Rs 17 lakh per 10 seconds.
Asia Cup is scheduled to be held from 30 August, 2023, to September 17, 2023.
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Sorted 360 wins creative & social media mandate of Reliance Mall
The agency will manage offline and online campaigns for Reliance Mall
Sorted 360, an integrated creative and social media agency, has won the mandate to providing brand solutions for Reliance Malls across India.
“Sorted 360 is set to enhance Reliance Malls' market presence with their unparalleled creative prowess and strategic thinking,” read a press release.
“Sorted 360's commitment to pushing the boundaries of creative communication aligns perfectly with Reliance Malls' ethos. With a pan-India presence spanning across 19 cities and growing, Reliance Malls has consistently captivated customers by offering an array of Reliance brands and third-party fashion & lifestyle brands. The mall has established an unparalleled connection with its patrons through superior quality, a remarkable value proposition, and an unmatched shopping experience,” it read further.
"We are thrilled to welcome Sorted 360 as our trusted partner in advancing our brand presence across the nation," said the Head of Marketing at Relaice Malls. "Their proven expertise in retail, shopping center management, and innovative creative strategies make them the perfect fit for our vision."
"Partnering with Reliance Malls is a testament to our commitment to shaping extraordinary brand experiences," remarked Prerana Anatharam, Co-founder of Sorted 360. "We are excited to leverage our strategic and creative acumen to further elevate Reliance Malls as the epitome of convenience, choice, and excellence."
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KlugKlug onboards Hemang Mehta as Country Manager for Indias
Mehta was most recently Head of Agency Relationships at Network 18 Media & Investments
KlugKlug has appointed Hemang Mehta as its Country Manager for India.
Mehta will play a pivotal role in driving KlugKlug's growth and expansion within the Indian market and be responsible for Sales & GTM Strategy
Prior to that, he has also represented organisations like Exponential (now VDX.tv), India Today Digital and Rediff.com. His expertise spans various domains including digital media sales, mobile marketing, media planning, and buying, social media marketing, and more.
Hemang Mehta expressed his enthusiasm about joining KlugKlug, saying, "I am thrilled to be a part of KlugKlug, a forward-thinking platform that is reshaping the influencer marketing landscape. As much as I look forward to collaborating with the exuberant team at KlugKlug, I am super excited to interact with the brands to deliver powerful data-backed Influencer solutions that will guarantee business outcomes."
Commenting on the appointment, Kalyan Kumar, Co-Founder and CEO of KlugKlug, stated, "We are excited to welcome Hemang Mehta to our team as the Country Manager for India. His extensive experience in digital media sales and marketing will be instrumental in driving our efforts to provide influencer marketing solutions to our clients. We believe Hemang's leadership will be key in scaling our operations and expanding our reach within the Indian market."
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